Do you take in interest in your countries politics?

NeCoHo

Retired Mod
So...... It makes sense... What's wrong with making friends with Europe, improving industry, and making Americans be proud to live in America?

Hitler did something wrong: He should have re-did Germany, and left it there. What the Nazis did was terrible, and should never be repeated.
 
I'm not calling you are Nazi, I don't want to cause any sort of offence or anything, Im just being politcally objective. It appears that many of your values have fascist tendancies, but I suppose they are combined with some classical liberal ideas. At times it does appear that the patriotism can border on chauvanism (in the classical sense of the word, not that relating to gender). I suppose it is a perceived chavnism bourne out of a great patriotism that many americans have that has been detremental to an international perception.
 

NeCoHo

Retired Mod
exactly. And there is nothing wrong with that. I hope. :) I didn't take any offense, I'm not Jewish, but that wasn't the point anyways.
 

tony_montana

Semper Fidelis
I agree with everything J said. His focus on where to take America is riviting and I wish it could happen right now.
And Deweyrules, could you please explain to me how J sound like a Nazi?
 

NeCoHo

Retired Mod
Hitler said much of the same things I did. His country was in a massive slump. It would cost 100 marks for a loaf of bread, when it was usually a few marks. Germany was crippeled because of the sanctions that Europe put on them after the Central Powers was defeated. Huitler hid his industry, he started producing a masive amry, huge battleships(The Bismark) a airforce to be rekoned with, and motivated his people to do great things. The only bad thing, he blamed it on the Jews. He was a model for re-buildigna country, until he started exectutuing Jews. That's when he became such a horrible man.
 

Dabney

Deutscher Moderator
J. said:
The only bad thing, he blamed it on the Jews. He was a model for re-buildigna country, until he started exectutuing Jews. That's when he became such a horrible man.

So it was not wrong to abuse the general depression for his own political aims, to have his opponents killed or arrested, to deprive the population of basic human rights and the many other cruel things Hitler did?

:Angry:
 

tony_montana

Semper Fidelis
I have to go with J on this one. Yes, Hitler became a horrible man when he executed the Jewish people and then started going after other ethnic groups(the Slavs, etc.). BUT, putting that aside, he did get Germany back on it's feet and he got German people to be proud of themselves again. That's the only part of Hitler that should ever be copied by another politician.
 

NeCoHo

Retired Mod
add something interesting Sam, please. :D


Overall, he was a bad, bad man, but in certain points (like tony said) he made the German nation very powerful. No offense to anyone, but if the US didn't step in, I doubt the world would be like it is today. Let's face it: Russia's winter and American manpower turned the tables of WWII in favor of the Allies. Had America swung the other way...(thought inspired by Harry Turtledove's Great War and American Empire novels, read them, they are great).
 
Firstly, in technical terms Hitler had the most effective form of government- a dictatorship. This, however does not necessarily mean it is the BEST form of government. Of course the most evident evil linked with Hitler was the Holocaust, however, don't forget the fact that he first persecuted many Germans- those who did not fit with his aryan 'super' race, the weak were effectively culled. A corner stone of fascism is 'struggle' and the need for it to ensure a strong race, this leads to racialism (differing from racisim, as it is a so called scientific beleive in a difference in race, rather than an emotional, however the two are always linked.

Secondly, my remark that J. was akin to Hitler was flippant- I appologise, I was using it as hyperbele to make the point that a lot of his ideas for the greater good of the US, were in fact inherently ideologically fascist. But, J. I think you should become a benevolent dictator, always the best way :D
 

NeCoHo

Retired Mod
I really like these discussions, really, I do. And if anyone is curious:

Your Political Profile: Overall:
65% Conservative, 35% Liberal
Social Issues: 50% Conservative, 50% Liberal
Personal Responsibility: 75% Conservative, 25% Liberal
Fiscal Issues: 50% Conservative, 50% Liberal
Ethics: 50% Conservative, 50% Liberal
Defense and Crime: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

(I got it the same place as the american accent thing from)

Overall, would I not make a great leader, would you believe what I said is a way a polititan would say it? One of Hitler's great traits was that he was a great orator, and he pumped up his crowd to believe what he believed in. That's the kind of talent I'm trying to get.

Benevolent dictator is the way to go in my book, I'd have it no other way. :)
 

tony_montana

Semper Fidelis
@Yargames-I sure hope you were joking. NEVER, in a million years, EVER believe I like Hitler, and never believe I think he was a "great guy", because he was not.
@J-So.......your not going to be president, your going to be a "benevolent dictator"?......I may have to rethink my position on voting for you.:D
 

NeCoHo

Retired Mod
president first, THEN benevolent dictator, after the two four year terms are up, I put in an Executive Order, and I go from Prez. to Good Emperor.
 

Wildcat

Retired Moderator
J. said:
I really like these discussions, really, I do. And if anyone is curious:

Your Political Profile: Overall:
65% Conservative, 35% Liberal
Social Issues: 50% Conservative, 50% Liberal
Personal Responsibility: 75% Conservative, 25% Liberal
Fiscal Issues: 50% Conservative, 50% Liberal
Ethics: 50% Conservative, 50% Liberal
Defense and Crime: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

(I got it the same place as the american accent thing from)

Here's mine. Looks like I'm split down the middle for most things except crime and money, though more conservative overall. That makes sense, like I said, I don't view myself belonging to any particular political party. I always thought that I leaned more toward the liberal side of things though. Guess not. :D:

Your Political Profile:
Overall: 65% Conservative, 35% Liberal
Social Issues: 50% Conservative, 50% Liberal
Personal Responsibility: 50% Conservative, 50% Liberal
Fiscal Issues: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal
Ethics: 50% Conservative, 50% Liberal
Defense and Crime: 75% Conservative, 25% Liberal
How Liberal Or Conservative Are You?
http://www.blogthings.com/howliberalorconservativeareyouquiz/
 
If a benevolent dictatorship could ever work, it would be the best for everyone, look forward to seeing you in power J. Would you call yourself king or emporer? The monarchy in Britain play the most minor role in politics, so I'd advise emperor.
 
Re: Post your Pics! (Split from House Location Thread)

@J. or should I say Furher, it's getting a bit worrying that YOU are now comparing yourself to Hitler, is there something you're not telling us?
 

tony_montana

Semper Fidelis
I advise you not to try to become emperor at all. If you do, I smell the rotten fish smell of a giant coup d'ete.:Bomb:
 

yardgames

Retired Administrator
Wildcat said:
Here's mine. Looks like I'm split down the middle for most things except crime and money, though more conservative overall. That makes sense, like I said, I don't view myself belonging to any particular political party. I always thought that I leaned more toward the liberal side of things though. Guess not. :D:

Your Political Profile:
Overall: 65% Conservative, 35% Liberal
Social Issues: 50% Conservative, 50% Liberal
Personal Responsibility: 50% Conservative, 50% Liberal
Fiscal Issues: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal
Ethics: 50% Conservative, 50% Liberal
Defense and Crime: 75% Conservative, 25% Liberal
How Liberal Or Conservative Are You?
http://www.blogthings.com/howliberalorconservativeareyouquiz/
You are probably are liberal for your geographical area, considering you're fairly deep in the conservative South.
 

NeCoHo

Retired Mod
Re: Post your Pics! (Split from House Location Thread)

Everyone here knows I'm pretty sarcastic, I'm just joking around deweyrules. besides, since that was all I'm being comapred to lately, it was the first example that comes to my mind. Do you think Washington and Jefferson were taken seriously at first? Or even Martin Luther?
 
Re: Post your Pics! (Split from House Location Thread)

I guessed you were being sarcastic. I take you seriously J., I really do believe that you and your neo-nazi views should be taken into consideration. (being sarcastic)
 
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