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    I thought Reese had said Stevie is off limits to be picked on. But then again in that other episode Stevie started punching the stuffing out of Reese. I find it terrible for someone to fight another person in a wheel chair, who can barely talk, who wears giant glass, and looks to very ill or dying. But I like the part of Jamie's first words were shut up. Very great, funny, yet very common.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildcat
    For someone so smart, Malcolm is an idiot when it comes to social grace. That was so rude how he told Stevie that he would be a cripple for ever and his dad's attempts for him to walk were a waste of time!
    Yeah that was horrible!:Ouch: But that's what makes Malcolm, Malcolm. That reminds me of one episode in season #1 when Malcolm unintentionally insults Stevie on his first day in Krelboyne class and says,"You're going to take that the wrong way aren't you?" Classic!
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    Reese: You just gotta calm down, turn off your brain.
    Malcolm: You cant just turn off your brain. Reese: Sure you can, I do it all the time, just watch. Malcolm: You can't just turn off your...Reese?...Reese?

    Reese: oh man, how long was I out?


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    Well most of what i would say has been said, but i think the robo stevie thing was a little far fetched, but the hal/dewy storyline was brilliant, i liked the bit where hal opened the vent and hundreds of fags spilt out as malcolm watched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjpeople
    Well most of what i would say has been said, but i think the robo stevie thing was a little far fetched, but the hal/dewy storyline was brilliant, i liked the bit where hal opened the vent and hundreds of fags spilt out as malcolm watched.
    Yes, Reese & RoboStevie was goofball comedy and Hal & Dewey was great phychological comedy. That's what I really loved about the episode. The balance. Sorry I had a laugh at the post because I forgot Fags=Cigarettes. Caught me off guard.
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    Reese: You just gotta calm down, turn off your brain.
    Malcolm: You cant just turn off your brain. Reese: Sure you can, I do it all the time, just watch. Malcolm: You can't just turn off your...Reese?...Reese?

    Reese: oh man, how long was I out?


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    I missed the first 5 mins or so of this ep b/c I didn't realize it'd be on. Could someone tell me how it started and what happened before the "one free pass" scene? I know from the discussion we had earlier on the forums and the rest of the ep that Hal caught Dewey smoking. But it was so abrupt that I think I missed some sort of explanation.

    My comments on the ep:


    In general, I thought it was a mediocre to good ep by MitM standards. I felt that while the basic concepts behind the plots were good, the execution could have been much better. I kept watching scenes and thinking they had missed an oppurtunity to make it an excellent ep.

    Another general thought: I was surprised at the number of ideas/concerns that we've discussed in this forum that were present in the ep: Jamie talking, Reese as a bully again, no Buseys, Dewey isn't perfect anymore, toned down Hal, Malcolm being considerate again, a happy ending for Malcolm, Malcolm narrating. Perhaps we have a spy among us.

    Hal/Dewey Plot:
    This was my least favourite plot. Before the ep aired, we were talking about how smoking didn't match Dewey's character in the least. Instead of making the plot more credible, watching the ep made it all the more absurd.

    Even for a normal teenager, this plot would be ridiculous. "B/c I found cigarettes lying around" is not a good excuse to start smoking. Kids generally start either b/c of peer pressure or b/c their parents smoke regularly and consider it 'normal'. Added to that is what we know about Dewey. He's always been the responsible one - 'the snitch'. And even if we believe this slip up on his part, we can hardly be expected to believe that he'd be stupid enough to smoke 1 cigarette (much less 2 packs a day) at home with a mother as strict and as anti-smoking (she made Francis eat a lit cigarette) as Lois.

    Hal's excuse for having the cigarettes around was also pretty flimsy. Having a safety pack and "just knowing that they're there" is understandable. But why did he have to fill the entire house with them. If anything, that'd ruin any chances he had of quitting.

    I don't think either of the actors portrayed withdrawal very well either. It seemed to be more about getting the better of each other than about fulfilling a craving. They seemed angry rather than desperate or irritable.

    Reese/Stevie Plot: This wasn't the main plot and I don't know why it was the title. As someone said earlier, the beginning was rather rushed, but other than that, I think it was a good plot. We got to see Reese as a bully again without losing the sensitive side that we learned about in season 5/6 i.e. he was a bully, but for touching reasons.

    I was completely surprised by RoboStevie (as everyone seems to have dubbed him). I actually liked the idea a lot. I didn't like how he got kicked out of the program though - too sad. I would much rather have him destroy the machine so that the design had to be scrapped and the project put on hold for a while.

    The plot also raises the question as to why Reese is suddenly jealous after all these years. Maybe, it has something to do with him being the only one left from his grade. Him being all alone (even more so than before) may make Malcolm and Stevie's friendship seem all the more like betrayal.

    Malcolm's role: In any other ep, I would have been disappointed at the lack of a unique Malcolm plot line, but it somehow fit in this ep. In this ep, it sort of highlighted a quality of Malcolm's that we've been seeing less of in the recent seasons (even as far back as season3) - he's the normal one. While the rest of the family was going nuts, Malcolm was the sane calm narrator at the center (in the middle ).

    Lois/Jamie Plot: This was by far my favourite plot in the ep.

    It was really interesting to see the contrast between Francis and Lois. While Francis blamed Lois for everything and seemed to actually block out the instances where she had shown him consideration, Lois suppressed all the bad things Ida had done to her, blaming herself instead.

    Another interesting aspect of the plot, of course, was Jamie's first words.

    Does the fact that Jamie only talked after Lois left the room imply that he's actually been talking for a while and only refuses to talk when the family is around? If so, is he doing so just to antagonize them (especially Lois)?

    Does the simmilarity of his first words and those of Francis mean that Hal and Lois' parenting hasn't really changed that much? Is Jamie another Francis? Perhaps, since they're simmilar, Lois will be able to reconsile with Francis by bringning Jamie up well.
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    I agree the smoking plot seemed a bit non-feasible, but come on! It led to the most random MTIM scene in a while: Hal and Dewey playing catch in their pajamas in the middle of the night! That was hilarious!

    As far as what you missed, not much. Basically, Hal walked into the garage, planning to fix a picture frame when he saw a lit cigarette on the floor and told Reese he was caught red-handed and to come out from hiding. Of course, Dewey came out instead and Hal told Dewey Lois was going to be angry with him. Dewey begged him not to tell, and Hal said he could use his free pass. Other than that, you missed the cold open and commercials.

    And about the title: Often the eps aren't titled by the most important storyline. Since it's still (sometimes) told in Malcolm's perspective, the title often reflects Malcolm's role in the ep. It probably also has to do with how clever a title they can come up with.

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    When will the episode be added to the actual episode guide homepage? I really think it brought up the current 4 star ratings! 4 and a half stars is my opinion!

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    David is gone until Monday, so probalby on that day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emrysgirl
    And even if we believe this slip up on his part, we can hardly be expected to believe that he'd be stupid enough to smoke 1 cigarette (much less 2 packs a day) at home with a mother as strict and as anti-smoking (she made Francis eat a lit cigarette) as Lois.
    Yeah, he must have been smoking for quite some time if he's already up to two packs a day. I know people who have smoked for years that don't smoke that much. That would mean that he's smoking a cigarette at least every 30 minutes--and no one ever noticed before now? You're right, that is pretty unbelievable. But hey, it's TV.

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