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    I noticed a technical problem with the Fabulous Films DVD of S2. The "paint splash" buttons on the menu to activate individual episodes often fail to work on my PC and from my TV DVD-player. If you click them, the DVD just stops and the screen turns to black, or whatever initial state it was in. Very annoying! I have to hit the Play All-button, and then work my way through all the chapters most of the time.

    Does anyone have similar experiences, or with subsequent seasons?

    Rich


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    Quote Originally Posted by Richiepiep View Post
    I noticed a technical problem with the Fabulous Films DVD of S2. The "paint splash" buttons on the menu to activate individual episodes often fail to work on my PC and from my TV DVD-player. If you click them, the DVD just stops and the screen turns to black, or whatever initial state it was in. Very annoying! I have to hit the Play All-button, and then work my way through all the chapters most of the time.

    Does anyone have similar experiences, or with subsequent seasons?

    Rich
    Haven't had that problem myself (watching on a Panasonic Blu-ray player).

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    Default Season 5 BBFC Info.

    Here's a link to the classification of Season 5, including all the running times for every episode if anyone wants to check and see if anything's been cut at all?

    http://www.bbfc.co.uk/releases/malcolm-middle-2

    Also, was wondering if anyone had any screencaps of the DVD menus, or any links to unboxing videos for Seasons 2-4? Haven't picked them up yet as I'm hoping for a complete set once they're all out!

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    @Malcolm191095

    No, I haven't got any of the things you ask (yet), but thanks a lot for the great BBFC-link. It's nice to see that this detailed info is readily available for media like MITM.

    Rich
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    I've had a chance to review Season 1, and bah, what an awful awful low quality transfer. NTSC, not PAL though it is Region 2. Looks like a poor transfer from the original disk.

    Considering the thing was shot on film, you'd have thought they'd have been able to do a proper transfer from film stock to 50fps DVD or at least convert from the 60fps video sources to 50fps.

    Im a fan of Buffy, and even though that was shot on film, the first two seasons were at least mastered on video, but we get a nice PAL video. Season 3-5 however seems to have good film stock with no interlacing.

    Malcolm in the Middle however also does not appear to be interlaced from episode one onwards, but it's still at 30fps for the frame rate (60fps field rate).

    Im not quite sure how Fabulous Films are justifying taking so much time over releasing each season when they don't even appear to be doing anything....

    Season 2 to review however first. But, a little disappointed so far.

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    Bleh. Season 2 is also interlaced - Im not quite sure why the other posted said the video was field blended - I always thought that was a deinterlacing method, and these videos are heavily interlaced.

    And the very first episode of season 2, shows "fox widescreen" with the TV PG L or whatever logo in the corner.

    Very very very disappointing.

    They haven't gone to original stock. If anything, all they've done is gone to the syndicated versions which is quite poor considering the cost. Not worth the £20+ IMHO. £15 for an archive yes, but £20 for doing nothing more than whacking NTSC video sources (when this thing was filmed on 16mm) and adding a couple of menus.... is poor.

    They don't use the original sources, and they haven't even converted from NTSC to PAL! Abysmal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjdean View Post
    Bleh. Season 2 is also interlaced - Im not quite sure why the other posted said the video was field blended - I always thought that was a deinterlacing method, and these videos are heavily interlaced.
    Season Four is field blended; the rest aren't! I've posted my two cents on all season sets so far, each one has it's ups and downs, but the fourth season being field blended was the final straw for me, personally.

    Quote Originally Posted by Richiepiep View Post
    this sounds extremely erratic, like, we have a couple of Netflix versions, and some other sources, let's slap them together and we have a product.
    Richiepiep, this does actually make me wonder if the Netflix masters were used for this DVD set. Obviously this isn't a case of FF screen capturing the Netflix streams, it would be more complex than that, but I wouldn't put it past FOX to supply versions created specifically for online streaming; it would explain the field blending to be honest.
    I hope things improve for Season 5, otherwise I'm just going to have to stop buying them from here onwards, which I really do not want to do.
    I know I've said in the past that something is better than nothing, but Satellite TV Channel "5 Star" manages to broadcast remastered versions with little interlacing (which only occurs on a few 'sped up' shots) and to my knowledge, no cuts. It's sad that TV is better quality than commercial home video.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sjdean View Post
    Bleh. Season 2 is also interlaced - Im not quite sure why the other posted said the video was field blended - I always thought that was a deinterlacing method, and these videos are heavily interlaced.

    And the very first episode of season 2, shows "fox widescreen" with the TV PG L or whatever logo in the corner.
    You're quite right about that! I put two screenhots illustrating this in our Gallery:

    http://www.malcolminthemiddle.co.uk/...hp?photo=10632



    (and the one next to that in our Gallery).

    Richiepiep, this does actually make me wonder if the Netflix masters were used for this DVD set. Obviously this isn't a case of FF screen capturing the Netflix streams, it would be more complex than that, but I wouldn't put it past FOX to supply versions created specifically for online streaming; it would explain the field blending to be honest.
    Yes, Mass, come to think of it, they could have used the digitized versions for online streaming, which would be an easy option. At any rate, they didn't go back to the masters in any shape or size. I've half a mind to contact Fabulous why they couldn't go back to the masters - I mean, not in an aggressive way, let's say inquisitive Same with the buttons that do not work with reasonbly standard software (VLC, Cyberlink, Windows Media Player) and DVD hardware. It all looks pretty slipshod, which is a shame after 10+ years!

    I also find the image quality generally very dark. Look at the indoor and night scenes for Casino, Lois' Birthday, Dinner Out and Halloween Approximately for instance. I really can't watch those without adjusting the brightness settings.

    Attachment: this is how a scene from "Halloween Approximately" looks for me in a default setting.

    Rich

    P.S. Surprisingly, the 'general' reviews on the net, by people who are more or less professional reviewers, just remark how funny the series is, how well acted and written, but don't even single out something as obvious to me as the great cinematography, let alone details we come up with about frame rate and image quality. You find that here and on Amazon for instance. So it doesn't seem to bother the general public. But I'm really glad we notice it, and wonder why they couldn't have done better.
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    I'm glad they are a snowman with protective rubber skin.


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    I believe it has been said that the version on Netflix is syndicated so bits are cut out. Maybe it's the only masters version that Fox has? That would be surprising, aren't the episodes broadcasted here in the UK uncut?

    Anyway, I agree with all of you. This DVD edition is atrocious. I can understand that they can't put / afford any extra, but the menus look like something out of the 90s and look plain awful, and the video quality is very, very poor and interlaced, and I've never seen a DVD edition with logos and such from the original broadcast.


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    I just hope the episode where Francis is on the ranch where he swears about Willy playing the music isn't cut. I killed myself laughing when I first saw that, then every other time I've seen it, has been cut! Devastated or what!

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