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    I too feel that we have seen too much of Ida lately. During the scene where Lois had arrived and Ida felt she was being embarrassed, I wanted to turn off the TV. That scene dragged on far too long, and Ida's voice grew to sound like nails against a chalk board. I horribly disliked that storyline, and therefore could take nothing further from it than an increased hate from Ida.

    But maybe we can work to evaluate Ida and Cloris Leachman's portrayal of her. We've seen this "witch" since season 2's The Grandparents, and she was instantly established as a cruel character. She is not your typical grandmother, and she doesn't want to be. The boys don't try to make her be. Hal would like his mother-in-law dead. But I'm off-topic; what I'm trying to say is, why is it that we hate Ida so much? What about her has led us to hate her?

    At first I thought, Dewey's deafness would be a permanent addition to the show, and I think it would have been entertaining to see it last a bit longer, but we need to work with what we have been given. I am quite surprised appanah did not try to decode the symbolism of the deafness. In an earlier thread, nearly everyone agreed that everything can be analysed, even if it is not intended to be. Therefore, I want to pose the question: What does the deafness symbolize? (or for you Europeans (that was for you TJ), symbolise?)

    I think it could be any number of things. Before going deaf, Malcolm was purposely deaf to the world and music and its opportunities; Dewey was purposely deaf to other things, as appanah mentioned. Maybe, however, it represents society's deafness to people who are different than us. Ida is not a "normal" grandmother and people decide that they dislike her. We see no sympathy--no human qualities--in Ida until Ida Loses a Leg. If we had been listening, maybe he had seen it in earlier episodes, as well.

    Ahh, but Boomer intended for us not to hear it; thus, he assumed the position of the typical audience member, and wrote what he wanted us to hear. We are deaf to Ida because society is deaf to Ida.

    Or, maybe that was all too deep, and it was just another annoying Ida episode. No emmies here. I hope I was politically correct enough for everyone.

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    I think Malcolm deserved to be deaf for a while. I know a bit about music, being a trumpet player but, sometimes it's diffucult to understand the music, Tocata in Fugue, for example is easy to understand, Mozart was dying, he thought he was writing his own death song, there is a lot of unhappiness in this song. While Pachabelle's Cannon (anyone hear of the "we remember" graduation song, it's a direct derritive) that song is diffucult because there is a almost mournfull part and it kinda makes you reflect on the past. Tequilla on the other hand has a beat that is hard not to understand. It is full of celebration and happiness.

    And not being able to appreaciate music, in a way is being deaf, in not using music to it's fullest.

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    J, All the pieces you mention above are amongst my favourite works of classical music.

    I love Barber's Adagio for strings - a piece that was referenced by Dewey. It has to be one of the most mounful, yet at the same time energetic pieces of music I've ever heard. How could it make Malcolm happy? Even the William Orbit version puts me in a certain state of mind.

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    maybe he is tone death

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    I have Pachabelle's Canon an Tequilla memerized for trumpet. Pachabelle: D, D, D, E, D, D, B. It's that spike(the E) that gives it the mournful sound. it increases in intensity over time, you really have to fource the air out of your gut, not lungs in this song. and it kills the lips after playng it too many times at once (believe me, i know )
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    Well, I now feel like I know about as much as Malcolm.

    @appanah, I hope that you don't stop writing your analyses, because I really enjoy them. What is this self-imposed word limit you were referring to? That seems a tad goofy.

    It will be interesting to hear your studies, but to be quite honest, I don't think I could ever do that; I want to see the complete ep ASAP. Good luck!

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    The part where Malcolm gets his first F was thought provokingIt showed us something that is naturalistic to this geniusthat nobody can perfect every field
    I was disappointed that the writers let this angle fall at the end when Malcolm actually does appreciate the music. I thought the ending could have been done better. It was important to the show but should have been placed towards the middle. After all, it is supposed to be a comedy (emotional stuff is just fine (even good in fact) as long as it ends with a joke)

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    At first I thoughtDewey's deafness would be a permanent addition to the show 
    At first, I actually thought he was lying and trying fooling malcolm. But that would have been too similar to the Ida's Boyfried plot.
    Question: Did Jamie go deaf too?

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    I don't think so. Jamie was close to the ground, probably startled by the air horn itselt and ran under the bed to protect himself, he probably just got that annoying ringing in his ears.
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