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tjpeople
Nov 4, 2007, 07:15 PM
Front Page Post (http://www.malcolminthemiddle.co.uk/2007/11/04/frankie-muniz-malcolm-perez-trash/)

http://www.malcolminthemiddle.co.uk/gallery/data/671/Frankie_Muniz_-_Clippers_Perez_Oct_2007.jpg (http://www.malcolminthemiddle.co.uk/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=3760&cat=671)

Here at the VC we dislike Perez Hilton, however if he reports on the Malcolm cast we will comment. He has added his usual sleazy graffti to the above image and says:


Showing some skin! Frankie Muniz is ready to play with some balls!

The Malcom in the Middle alum, wearing an LA Clippers jersey, had lunch with a friend at West Hollywood cafe La Conversation on Saturday. Muniz has recently given up acting in the hopes of being an amateur race car driver.

He’s kinda hot - if you like guys that look like they do lots of meth and should be on an episode of Cops! Frankie and Aaron Carter should be BFFs!http://www.malcolminthemiddle.co.uk/gallery/data/671/Frankie_Muniz_Perez_Hilton_October_2007.jpg (http://www.malcolminthemiddle.co.uk/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=3761&cat=671)

http://www.malcolminthemiddle.co.uk/gallery/data/671/medium/Frankie_Muniz_Perez_Hilton_October_2007_2.jpg
(http://www.malcolminthemiddle.co.uk/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=3762&cat=671)

Perez comments again:


What star was able to score this fine ass pussy??? Aren’t these ladies keepers????

It’s Malcolm in the Middle alum Frankie Muniz, leaving Hyde [West Hollywood Club] with some hos on Monday night. Who would have guess?Thanks to Melissa!

Ryebeach
Nov 4, 2007, 08:50 PM
TJ -

For what it's worth, I find this "item" being posted here to be in very poor taste.

News, this is not.

kimmyob
Nov 4, 2007, 08:52 PM
Frankie Looks Totally Wasted in those bottom photos.

tjpeople
Nov 4, 2007, 09:09 PM
Here at the VC we dislike Perez Hilton, however if he reports on the Malcolm cast we will comment.

Hence the above.

I'm not surprised you disapprove however we are not an official frankie site - people want news and info on frankie and if somebody is slamming him then we will report it. Ok we don't report every bad work somebody might say about frankie but perez is a popular source wether you like it or not.

We normally stay neutral on most news how we do say when we think things are bad or wrong.

Ryebeach
Nov 4, 2007, 09:12 PM
Hence the above.

Fair enough but my opinion still stands. As I said, take it for what it's worth.

tjpeople
Nov 4, 2007, 09:15 PM
updated my above post

Lucky Maroon
Nov 4, 2007, 09:25 PM
This is a touchy subject with some members, I believe.

But the more news, the better, I'd say. Doesn't matter if it's biased.

Feel free to disagree with me.

AlexTheMartian
Nov 5, 2007, 04:20 AM
Haha, I can tell the second I saw "Perez Trash" in the title that it was going to be this exact thing.

Is he implying that Aaron Carter also looks like he does a lot of meth and should be on Cops? I have not seen any recent pics of him, but to me it seem a bit random for him to post "Frankie and Aaron Carter should be BFFs!"

Anyways, I think many of us know that Frankie is a Clippers fan. Many people in L.A. dress like that and just walk around in a jersey, however I think Frankie looks very stupid with crappy wannabe facial hair... although everyone his age i see in my college have horrible facial hair, even myself, lmao.

What is Frankie doing in West Hollywood? I take the bus through the main blvd of that city going to and from work, and to tell you the truth, I probably will never be caught having lunch in that city, only time I will ever be there is for a music gig or a movie screening. I am not a homophobe, but I still prefer not to be the only straight person in a cafe, lol.

Boofyboy
Nov 5, 2007, 05:14 AM
TJ -

For what it's worth, I find this "item" being posted here to be in very poor taste.

News, this is not.



I agree with Ryebeach 100% on this one. To consider anything from that trash-spewing scumbag Perez Hilton to be news and to allow it on this site as such is nothing short of appalling. In my opinion, Perez Hilton's brand of antagonistic, hurtful, lying filth has no place on a fan site. You say that you don't like Perez Hilton, yet you promote his kind of trash journalism by helping to spread it on this site. I understand it's entirely your call, but you're setting the bar pretty low for the kind of material that should appear here in the future. It's a damned shame. I probably won't change your opinion that this kind of irresponsible trash belongs here, but I'm sure I'm not the only MITM fan here who doesn't like it. Put me down as another one who does not. :no:

Ryebeach
Nov 5, 2007, 06:19 AM
To consider anything from that trash-spewing scumbag Perez Hilton to be news and to allow it on this site as such is nothing short of appalling. In my opinion, Perez Hilton's brand of antagonistic, hurtful, lying filth has no place on a fan site. You say that you don't like Perez Hilton, yet you promote his kind of trash journalism by helping to spread it on this site. I understand it's entirely your call, but you're setting the bar pretty low for the kind of material that should appear here in the future. It's a damned shame.

Well said, Boofyboy. I couldn't agree more.

MalcolmFun
Nov 6, 2007, 12:50 AM
Sure the site is trashy but so what, every time a celebrity is photographed in public, especially at these L.A. clubs, that is probably going to be news. I'm probably Frankie's biggest fan and I still really have no sympathy because it is known exactly where these paparazzi hang out at these clubs and they can be avoided. If you really just want to live a 'normal' life then go somewhere else that is not celebrity and paparazzi infested. He was not in L.A. for like 9 months out of this year - I don't think it is a big deal that (A) he one time actually shows up to the clubs in this paparazzi area, (B)that he was photographed there, or (C)that there is dumb commentary about it on a gossip site.

Just because you dislike the commentary is no reason to pretend it isnt there. It is better to take the opportunity to dispute the silly commentary, as I did in previous threads to get people to realize Frankie has sort of an anti-Hollywood streak as opposed to desperately wanting to conform there. There is nothing even that bad about these pictures, and certainly not reason to buy into Perez commentary. He is leaving a club late at night with a couple of blonds in the car, so what? It doesn't even look like he was attempting to hide from the photographers at all. Maybe Frankie is embarassed if his mom sees pictures like this but other then that I don't think it is a big deal.

Lucky Maroon
Nov 6, 2007, 07:13 PM
Couldn't have said it better myself.

Boofyboy
Nov 6, 2007, 10:35 PM
I guess I just don't have a good word to say about anything to do with the likes of Perez Hilton. Ever. I absolutely despise him, all those like him and every disgusting, hurtful piece of trash they produce. Perez Hilton doesn't do "commentary". He makes a living by launching malicious, offensive attacks on celebrities and trying to disguise it as "gossip". Unfortunately, those who just don't care about or understand the damage this kind of irresponsible journalism can do seem to insatiably lap it up. How this kind of :shit: has any place on a fan site is beyond me, nor do I see how anyone can consider it news, so I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this matter.

tjpeople
Nov 6, 2007, 10:38 PM
well its got you posting...

Boofyboy
Nov 6, 2007, 11:34 PM
Yup! That sure did it! :thumbup1:

Lucky Maroon
Nov 7, 2007, 12:11 AM
The only thing I don't want to see on this forum is an inamicable (unfriendly) environment based on a few opposing notions. :P

MalcolmFun
Nov 7, 2007, 12:42 AM
Boofyboy I guess I just don't have a good word to say about anything to do with the likes of Perez Hilton. Ever

Who here has said anything good about that website? My question would be why should a fansite ignore any news as long as it has any relevance at all? As a site on a specalized topic, you make yourself obsolete by doing so.


Ryebeach Quote:
Well said, Boofyboy. I couldn't agree more.

Eh, I was going to post a longer response but let me not beat a dead horse and instead just say...with all due respect...that is why the OFF-TOPIC board is the thing that is most active on Justin's board.

Boofyboy
Nov 7, 2007, 12:55 AM
MalcolmFun, if you honestly consider anything that comes from Perez Hlton's site to be "news", then that's where our difference of opinion lies.

Let me throw this out there... When another celebrity blogger (Jonathan Jaxson) "outed" another MITM cast member as gay, did that appear on this site? Was it discussed on this site? Was it considered "news" by this site?

I don't think so.

Do you really think that is any different?

Do we have a double standard here?

Just sayin'.

Ryebeach
Nov 7, 2007, 07:08 AM
Eh, I was going to post a longer response but let me not beat a dead horse and instead just say...with all due respect...that is why the OFF-TOPIC board is the thing that is most active on Justin's board.

MalcolmFun, if you take issue with my moderating style or the rules of Celebrity Loop, the home of Justin's OFFICIAL website and message board, then by all means, contact me personally via PM to express your concerns or through e-mail at ##censored##.

If I take issue with a rule or a thread/post made by the staff here on the MITMVC, I discuss it with TJ and/or Sam, and explain my concerns. They kindly reply and often we agree to disagree (as in this case) and then we move on. That's the way it goes.

However, on Celebrity Loop, we do not now, nor will we ever, be involved in the spreading of rumors or innuendo or degrading commentary about celebrities on our website by giving publicity to "items" from sites such as Perez Hilton, regardless of how "popular" his website may or may not be.

Regardless of how one may spin it, we do not consider rumors or innuendo or degrading commentary to be "news."

tjpeople
Nov 7, 2007, 10:12 AM
Let me throw this out there... When another celebrity blogger (Jonathan Jaxson) "outed" another MITM cast member as gay, did that appear on this site? Was it discussed on this site? Was it considered "news" by this site?


Well first off - there is a "this celeb is gay" rumour all the time. Also this site had not gone through its re-design at the time of that rumour about Justin.

Perez is just taking the piss, and that is completely different from saying someone is gay and I met his boyfriend.

Also someones sexuality is private - unless they flaunt it - however going to a club with some girls isnt exactly the way to stay unnoticed.

However if their was solid evidence on something like that and not just a recycled rumour we would report, I have no idea where this double standard idea has come from.

Boofyboy
Nov 7, 2007, 10:59 AM
Perez is spewing the same kind of lying filth he always does. Insinuating that Frankie does meth and is leaving a club with "hos" is nothing but a sleazy personal attack on Frankie.

How is that different from Jaxson's claim that Justin is gay? If anything, it is far more degrading and destructive a claim.

Clearly, Frankie was not making any attempt to stay unnoticed, but should that make it ok for someone to suggest that he's doin' drugs and runnin' around with hos? I think not.

Solid evidence? We have solid evidence that Frankie does meth and hangs around with hos as Perez Hilton would have us believe? And that's why it's being reported on this site? I think not.

There's your double standard.

tjpeople
Nov 7, 2007, 11:56 AM
The idea that Frankie is doing meth and in a car with ho's is CLEARLY a joke - he trying to be funny, he's taking the piss.

Please stop talking about this site having double standards, you've been a member for a few months and therefore have no real idea.

If there was a perez story today on justin being gay, we might post it. but i say again your can't compare this story and that story in the same league. We dont favour justin over frankie.

Boofyboy
Nov 7, 2007, 12:02 PM
I don't see it that way at all. I think it's just another sleazy, unfounded, mean-spirited vicious attack on a celebrity's reputation. It's consistent with what Perez does. It's what he ALWAYS does. It's ALL he does.

I think I've been here long enough to know what this site is all about. To suggest that I "have no real idea" is belittling and nothing short of insulting.

This isn't a question of favoring Justin over Frankie. It's a question of sleazy, trash journalism being spread and given any kind of creedence on a fan site, an idea I find deplorable. But, that's just my opinion. Everyone's entitled to their own.

Lucky Maroon
Nov 8, 2007, 12:38 AM
Is this still going on?

I say no matter how good it feels to get your point across, this isn't the best way to do it.

Look at yourselves! If you feel this shouldn't be here, then don't bump it. If you don't care, don't bump it. If you hate Perez (most do) then don't bump it. If you have something neutral and insightful to say that doesn't stir up chaos, go ahead and post!

You're just bumping up the hate and the tension, man!

Do you (the reader) believe anyone else could change your mind on this topic? The chances of that happening is the same as if you converted someone else! (did that make any sense to you? I could try to rephrase) I'm only assuming some of you are very opinionated on this topic.

Correct me if I'm wrong. Sorry if you don't like this peacekeeper business, but I have an opinion too. The fact is, I really don't want to hear it anymore. D:<

MalcolmFun
Nov 8, 2007, 03:55 AM
I think the topic goes well beyond a silly story about Frankie to the idea that some people are basically in favor of censorship when they don't like what is said. The news item could be that Tom Cruise wore pink high heels when he met with Xenu the other day and I would still argue it is dumb for a Tom Cruise fansite to censor that from its readers. Readers that expect the site to give them news of Cruise are not supposed to be surprised and know less then people that arent even fans. That Tom Cruise fansite is totally obsolete and useless then.



MalcolmFun, if you honestly consider anything that comes from Perez Hlton's site to be "news", then that's where our difference of opinion lies. BoofyboyThe thing is there are 2 parts to this, the pictures themselves and the parody/commentary about them. Surely you arent suggesting the photos are fake? Your only critieria for declaring they can't be news seems to be that you don't like the commentary and what was said is mean. What if they happened to be posted some place else but with something nice said instead, suddenly you would change your mind? (pictured: Frankie Muniz, actor, taking the time to interupt his hot late night date in order to rush a sick puppy to the animal shelter!) Just because we dislike some commentary then lets pretend the pictures dont even exist and Frankie was never there!

Do you do this with the newspaper too? Lets cut out the articles we dont like and throw them in trash, all the stuff in them never happened! If you are trying to use some other more legitimate journalistic criteria then just if you like it or not, I can't detect what it possibly would be.



MalcolmFun, if you take issue with my moderating style or the rules of Celebrity Loop, the home of Justin's OFFICIAL website and message board, then by all means, contact me personally via PM to express your concerns or through e-mail at ##censored##.

I'm not going to debate how you should moderate the site and it isnt an attack on you since I know you are doing what you are supposed to. But lets look at the facts

that is why the OFF-TOPIC board is the thing that is most active on Justin's board.What I said is clearly correct and the site is run according to the way that Alyssa Milano set it up - as a celebrity haven away from any publicty they cant control after she went through controversies and trying to kill fansites devoted to her because of controversial material. (excuse me if I dont remember the exact story). This certainly has worked great for controlling rumors about Justin LOL

Conceptually, you asking to change this forum from a news forum into an advocacy forum that present only a positive view. If we are actually fans there is not much reason to fear the truth or want censorship. Practically a celebrity a week gets a DUI. Nick Hogan was just arrested for drag racing and putting his friend in a coma. Meanwhile Frankie is signing safe driver promotions and wears his seatbelt in every picture I have ever seen. Why do we need to whitewash anything? Sunlight is the best disinfectant, not secrecy.

tjpeople
Nov 8, 2007, 07:54 AM
@MalcolmFun - Could you chat to Rye about the SS forum via PM please.

@Boofyboy (http://www.malcolminthemiddle.co.uk/forum/member.php?u=1600) - I'm sorry if you feel offended however it was you who said we favoured justin over frankie.

I hate to do this, but I think its best If I close this thread, if anyone has objections to this PM me.

I very much want people to be able to express their opinions, but I think people have made their points. And that this will descend into a shouting match, or personal attacks - which upsets the forum mood of being friendly.

yardgames
Nov 9, 2007, 10:39 PM
I completely sympathize with Rye. While free speech dictates this sort of thread be allowed on the website, the implication that this is news is absurd. I appreciate your healthy debates, but I would prefer to see debates on topics actually related to the show, not the private lives of the show's stars.