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Thread: Did you prefer the show when it was centered on malcolm?

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    Default Did you prefer the show when it was centered on malcolm?

    I was just wandering what everyone thought, but first read what i meant by it. In the earlier seasons, the show was centered on Malcolm, but now the show focuses on other characters more. You may have favorite episodes from different seasons, but altogether, do you prefer the show hen it was all about Malcolm, or do you think it is better now, with episodes that focus on Dewey, and the other characters more?

    It is quite a hard question; personally i think i liked the show better when its main focus was on Malcolm. I guess that is because Malcolm is my favorite character. I do like that they have no main focus now, it gives other characters a chance in the spotlight , but especially in season 6, Malcolm has quite weak storylines. I guess it all depends on which character you like.

    Any thoughts?

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    Default Re: Did you prefer the show when it was centered on malcolm?

    I enjoy the show now that we see more of the other characters; however, I wish it were still being seen and told in the eyes of Malcolm, instead of being more third-person.

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    Default Re: Did you prefer the show when it was centered on malcolm?

    Quote Originally Posted by yardgames
    I enjoy the show now that we see more of the other characters; however, I wish it were still being seen and told in the eyes of Malcolm, instead of being more third-person.
    That's a good way of putting it. I agree. There are tons of story lines that I love that are not focused on Malcolm, but I like it when Malcolm still interacts with the story line in some way. There were a lot of story lines this season in particular where there was no presence of Malcolm at all. I think that's what's missing from a lot of Busey story lines. Malcolm never has a single thing to do with those. I mean, does Malcolm know that Dewey doesn't need to be in that class? Does Malcolm have any opinion on it at all? They don't really let us know. There are many story lines where, as Yardgames put it, you aren't seeing it through the eyes of Malcolm. Sometimes I still really like them, but there just seems like there's a little something missing.

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    i prefered the show when there was more importance of the character of malcolm, but i can't explain exactly why. Maybe it's just that the show is called malcolm in the middle and you expect malcolm to be the "star". And i also think that since the other characters are as important as malcolm is, malcolm has become more stupid, and less happy.

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    Yes I did prefer it centered around Malcolm. It was much funnier to see things through his eyes, rather than this generic 3rd person view we have now.

    I also don't like that fact that nothing goes right for Malcolm anymore, when we had it centered around Malcolm 99% of the time things would end up OK at the end of the episode for him, now its just one depressing storyline after another for him.

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    I'm not sure that they did always go right for him - he'd usually put a brave face on the outcome (most often a punishment from Lois) and look for a positive aspect, but things rarely seemed to end up the way he planned.
    Maybe because his voice is deeper now he can't get away with complaining so much?

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    It's not really important to me having Malcolm's character centered on the show, it's not only about him, it's all about the whole family. But what makes me a little sad is how the character of Malcolm changed by itself, he used to be VERY funny..now, he is still funny but most of the time this "new Malcolm" which of course sometimes can be funny, too; he makes his life harder than it actually is. But I prefer and really LIKED the old Malcolm.
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    I agree with MITM-Fan. I also liked the show better before the characters (especially Malcolm and Dewey) changed. Malcolm should get some decent storylines. In my opinion it was better when the stories were told from his point of view, but the main problem are his lame subplots. I´d like it better if they gave him some good storylines (even if he isn´t the main character which isn´t the important thing in my opinion) and if they didn´t focus the show almost entirely on Dewey and Hal. It´s actually a good thing that they feature the other characters, too, now, but still they shouldn´t forget about the less important characters in those episodes. It appears to me that they write their mainplot (featuring Hal and Dewey most of the time) and then realize that the other characters should make an appearence, too. So they make up a silly story for them. I also had this impression when Francis still worked at the ranch. Some of his plots were so silly and pointless I can´t even remember them (probably because I didn´t pay any attention or even changed the channel).
    That´s what I loved so much about the earlier seasons. There was so much attention to details and all plots were great. It´s not so important who´s the main character (in my opinion), but if "random" characters get stupid subplots all the time it gets annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by admin
    Yes I did prefer it centered around Malcolm. It was much funnier to see things through his eyes, rather than this generic 3rd person view we have now.

    I also don't like that fact that nothing goes right for Malcolm anymore, when we had it centered around Malcolm 99% of the time things would end up OK at the end of the episode for him, now its just one depressing storyline after another for him.
    That pretty much summed up what I would say. But I kind of disagree. If we were to see things in Malcolm's view today, what would we see? It would be so distorted from the real thing, and almost another tv show. His views on things in general are... that everything in the world is out to make his life misreble, and his family's life better.

    Anyone remember (I forgot the name of the ep.) where Malcolm finds an old computer game, like the sims. He sets his family's traitsbad, and his perfect. As Malcolm said it, "Dad used the milions from his car repair buesiness to find and party with aliens in his space station, Mom is the Cheif Justice of the Supreme Court, Reese is the emporer of China with 3 super model wives, and Dewey is the pope." While Malcolm, 400 pounds overweight, sits on the kitchen floor, with whiskey, burning himself with cigerattes and making sandwhiches, and ends up killing himself.

    I think that episode is a turning point in Malcolm's attitude. From "ok, it will get better" to "why try?" Maybe Zoo had some to do with that too.
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    Default Re: Did you prefer the show when it was centered on malcolm?

    You made a good point. By the way, the episode was called "Hal coaches". Zoo is a pretty good example. While he sees everything in a negative way Dewey doesn´t want him to ruin his "wonderful day at the zoo". And even if something turns out good for Malcolm he realizes that still something is wrong and complains (his last sentence in this episode is "my life sucks, I´m going to bed.")
    Though if he is surrounded by the "right" people he can be happy (like in Victor´s other family until he realizes they aren´t even related and in "Malcolm´s other family").
    I don´t think the show really was told "from his point of view", but he commented on things and people around him and that´s what made the show more "personal" and something special. So even with his negative attitude (which he always had, even if it wasn´t that much before) he couldn´t really change the show in my opinion.

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